Which Green Scythe & Daggers Have These Mods? - Guild Wars Forums

whufc89 · Jan 21, 2008, 09:44 AM // 09:44

I was just wondering if anybody could point me in the direction of some green daggers & a scythe which has the following mods, as I need them for my sin & derv heroes:

15^50
Armor Penetration 20/20
Health +30

In other words, what most people would call "perfect" weapons. Thanks a lot.

Julia-Louis Dreyfus · Jan 21, 2008, 09:46 AM // 09:46

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arsie · Jan 21, 2008, 09:46 AM // 09:46

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bathazard · Jan 21, 2008, 09:54 AM // 09:54

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whufc89 · Jan 21, 2008, 09:57 AM // 09:57

Lawl, thanks guys

MagmaRed · Jan 21, 2008, 03:30 PM // 15:30

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Originally Posted by whufc89

I was just wondering if anybody could point me in the direction of some green daggers & a scythe which has the following mods, as I need them for my sin & derv heroes:

15^50
Armor Penetration 20/20
Health +30

In other words, what most people would call "perfect" weapons. Thanks a lot.

I would recommend looking into different mods for both of those weapons. Sundering on Daggers won't do much. +20% of 7-17 is not much extra damage. Zealous is quite effective for almost all builds, I would suggest getting Zealous Daggers for a hero.

Scythe can benefit from Sundering, but 15^50 isn't what I would choose. I have yet to see a Dervish run a build without at least 1 enchantment, and its rare they don't have at least 1 enchantment active at all times. Because of this, I run 15^enchanted for my Dervish heroes. Depending on the build, I will also give them a +20% enchantment mod on the scythe. Helps for thinds like Ebon Dust Aura.

Green weapons have those options available.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ceremon...unique_item%29
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Droknar%27s_Daggers
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Everthorn%27s_Chakrams
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hidesplitter%27s_Daggers
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mallyx%27s_Zeal
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Split_C..._the_Forgotten
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Talons_of_the_Forgotten
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Ungues_of_the_Forgotten

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Brynn%27s_Scythe
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Droknar%27s_Scythe
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Dwayna%27s_Grace
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Fahralon%27s_Scythe
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Hand_of_the_Forgotten
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Mallyx%27s_Hatred
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Myish%27s_Scythe
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Scythe_of_the_Hierophant
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/The_Soulwailer

As you can see, there are a lot of similar weapons. Some are quite easy to get, or cheap to buy.

Quaker · Jan 21, 2008, 04:37 PM // 16:37

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

I would recommend looking into different mods for both of those weapons. Sundering on Daggers won't do much. +20% of 7-17 is not much extra damage.

Perhaps you need to read up on what Sundering does before you answer. It's not "+20% of 7-17". That would be "customizing".

iridescentfyre · Jan 21, 2008, 04:57 PM // 16:57

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Originally Posted by MagmaRed

I would recommend looking into different mods for both of those weapons. Sundering on Daggers won't do much. +20% of 7-17 is not much extra damage. Zealous is quite effective for almost all builds, I would suggest getting Zealous Daggers for a hero.

Sundering does not simply add +20% to the base damage of the weapon.. it causes 20% of the target's armor to be disregarded from the damage equation.

What you say is true though, Sundering on a set of daggers is worthless because it only affects the minuscule base damage, whereas daggers do most of their damage with the armor-ignoring +damage on their attack skills.

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagmaRed

Scythe can benefit from Sundering, but 15^50 isn't what I would choose. I have yet to see a Dervish run a build without at least 1 enchantment, and its rare they don't have at least 1 enchantment active at all times. Because of this, I run 15^enchanted for my Dervish heroes.

In my opinion, the only real reason to run 15% while Enchanted over 15^50 is to avoid the higher cost of a 15^50 inscription. Even if you're enchanted 100% of the time, the only time a 15% (enchanted) mod would be "better" would be if your health goes under 50%... in which case you should heal; not do damage.

Quaker · Jan 21, 2008, 05:34 PM // 17:34

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Originally Posted by iridescentfyre

What you say is true though, Sundering on a set of daggers is worthless because it only affects the minuscule base damage, whereas daggers do most of their damage with the armor-ignoring +damage on their attack skills.

I don't quite understand why you say "armor-ignoring" +damage. Only certain types of damage are armor-ignoring. A skill that adds +damage, does exactly that - it adds an amount of damage on top of that done by the base attack. The "type" of damage, unless otherwise specified, is the same as the damage from the base attack. For example, if you are using a weapon that does fire damage, both the base damage and the +damage would be fire damage - which is not armor-ignoring.
This +damage would also be affected by armor penetration.

dargon · Jan 21, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Actually Quaker, the +dmg is tacked on, after weapon damage is taken into account and after armor has already been factored in.

Alex the Great · Jan 21, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47

you dont want those sythe stats, u want 20? enchant/ zealous

Kale Ironfist · Jan 22, 2008, 12:40 AM // 00:40

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Originally Posted by Quaker

The "type" of damage, unless otherwise specified, is the same as the damage from the base attack. For example, if you are using a weapon that does fire damage, both the base damage and the +damage would be fire damage - which is not armor-ignoring.

It is armor-ignoring, since it bypasses armor as dargon described. While it is true that the type of damage is the same, it has no relation to the fact that it still isn't affected at all by armor.

Jan 21, 2008, 09:44 AM // 09:44	#1
whufc89 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Profession: E/	Which Green Scythe & Daggers Have These Mods? I was just wondering if anybody could point me in the direction of some green daggers & a scythe which has the following mods, as I need them for my sin & derv heroes: 15^50 Armor Penetration 20/20 Health +30 In other words, what most people would call "perfect" weapons. Thanks a lot.

Jan 21, 2008, 09:46 AM // 09:46	#2
Julia-Louis Dreyfus Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: May 2007	http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Index_of_unique_item_lists quick reply champ Last edited by Julia-Louis Dreyfus; Jan 21, 2008 at 10:04 AM // 10:04..

Jan 21, 2008, 09:46 AM // 09:46	#3
arsie Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Jun 2007 Profession: N/	http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Index_of_unique_item_lists Doh, beat me to it...

Jan 21, 2008, 09:54 AM // 09:54	#4
bathazard Krytan Explorer Join Date: Jul 2006 Profession: W/	http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Index_of_unique_item_lists its a spam thread >.> jj

Jan 21, 2008, 09:57 AM // 09:57	#5
whufc89 Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: UK Profession: E/	Lawl, thanks guys

Jan 21, 2008, 07:46 PM // 19:46	#10
dargon Furnace Stoker Join Date: May 2005 Guild: The Seraphim Knights [TSK] Profession: R/	Actually Quaker, the +dmg is tacked on, after weapon damage is taken into account and after armor has already been factored in.

Jan 21, 2008, 07:47 PM // 19:47	#11
Alex the Great Jungle Guide Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: America.....got a problem with that? Guild: [Lite] Profession: W/	you dont want those sythe stats, u want 20? enchant/ zealous